measurement needs (logistics) performance e2e measurements must be relevant to the user bandwidth estimation tools single source vs two end point available bw vs capacity calibration against real paths w cross-traffic (requires link and other info from multiple providers) infrastructural heterogeneity rendering harder by the minute workload longer traces tcp/ip headers, w options, other headers if possible at least 24 hours concurrent at several places several across time for trend analysis (buy stock in RAID vendors now) traffic matrices same constraints as above diverse locations disa, enterprise, university, backbone, peering point, cdn's (e.g., akamai) topology large scale traceroute coverage overcoming problems in traceroute methodology tracking topology at other layers IPv6