Topics of Interest
Topics of interest for this workshop series include the economic drivers and effects of:
- peering strategies and conflicts
- Internet content delivery, including video
- the network neutrality debate
- Internet access competition, both wired and wireless
- BGP routing (e.g., how much does deaggregation cost?)
- IP transit pricing
- traffic and topology dynamics of the peering ecosystem
We will also pursue in depth discussions on how to improve the realism and utility of Internet interdomain connectivity models for trend analysis and predictions of how the Internet ecosystem will look 5-15 years from now.
Attendees will be asked to submit brief, informal abstracts for presentations, or expressions of interest in moderating a discussion topic or breakout roundtable. Each attendee is expected to actively participate as well as provide input, writing, and/or feedback on the report we'll publish within 6 weeks after the workshop.
Please feel free to send any questions to kc at caida dot org.
Workshop Structure: Talk and Respondents
The workshop will include a few different modes of interaction:
- research presentations
- short presentations (data source updates
- moderated topic discussions (with an opening presentation by the person who proposed that topic, followed by an open discussion)
- focus tables at lunch breaks
To support interaction, each research talk will be assigned 3-4 Respondents. The role of a respondent is to follow the talk closely and engage the speaker in a discussion after the end of the presentation. The goal should not be to criticize the talk but to discuss its relevance and potential impact in the real-world. Of course, every workshop participant can contribute in the discussion after each talk.
Workshop Agenda
December 1 (Thursday)
Place: The Village, Building 1, 15th floor, UCSD Campus, La Jolla, CA- 08:00 - 09:00 breakfast
- 09:00 - 09:45 Introduction
- Constantine Dovrolis and kc claffy, The 2nd Workshop on Internet Economics
- Round table of participant introductions
- Format for the rest of the meeting: speaker, and the respondents to engage speaker in discussion
- 09:45 - 12:30 Peering Issues
- David Clark, Interconnection in the Internet: the policy challenge (45 min)
- Respondents: Ren Provo, Bill Norton, kc claffy, Richard Steenbergen
- Keith McCallion and Maurice Dean, Impact of peering on end user experience (30 min)
- Respondents: Tom Vest, Heikki Hämmäinen, Patrick Gilmore
11:00 - 11:15 break
- Dah Ming Chiu, From ISP/ICP Business Models to Internet Economics (20 min, short talk)
- Barry Tishgart, The Role of Settlements in Internet Economics (30 min)
- Respondents: Nikolaos Laoutaris, Bradley Huffaker, Richard Steenbergen
- Open Discussion: Emerging settlement scenarios to retro-fit existing settlement-free relationships (30 min)
- Moderator: Ren Provo
- Respondents: Bill Norton, Susan Martens, Richard Ma, Patrick Gilmore
- David Clark, Interconnection in the Internet: the policy challenge (45 min)
- 12:30 - 14:00 lunch
- 14:00 - 15:40 Peering Issues, continued
- Richard Steenbergen, Demo of PeeringDB (20 min, short talk)
- Bill Norton, Access Power Peering (30 min)
- Respondents: Constantine Dovrolis, Richard Steenbergen, Barry Tishgart
- Aemen Lodhi, GENESIS: An agent-based model of interdomain network formation, traffic flow and economic (30 min)
- Respondents: John Chuang, Geoff Huston, Patrick Gilmore
- 15:40 - 16:00 break
- 16:00 - 17:30 Costs and Profits
- Amogh Dhamdhere, A cost model for network traffic with an application to paid peering (30 min)
- Respondents: Geoff Huston, Susan Martens, Keith McCallion
- Patrick Gilmore, Peering strategies: how do networks decide? (30 min)
- Respondents: Barry Tishgart, Amogh Dhamdhere, Maurice Dean
- Amogh Dhamdhere, A cost model for network traffic with an application to paid peering (30 min)
- 18:00 Dinner/Reception: Focus topics tables, to be determined throughout the day
December 2 (Friday)
Place: The Village, Building 1, 15th floor, UCSD Campus, La Jolla, CA- 08:00 - 09:00 breakfast
- 09:00 - 10:45 Open Discussions
- Constantine Dovrolis and kc claffy, Summary/thoughts from Day 1 (30 min)
- Open Discussion: An Economic Perspective on IPv6 Transition (75 min)
- Moderator: Geoff Huston
- 10:45 - 11:00 break
- 11:00 - 12:00 More discussion on technology transitions
- Tom Vest, Economic considerations in technology adoption
- Dah Ming Chiu, Addressing and Routing for Scalability
- 12:00 - 12:30 Pricing
- Nikolaos Laoutaris, Network Economics: Some thoughts and several questions (30 min)
- Respondents: Maurice Dean, Patrick Gilmore, Dah Ming Chiu
- Nikolaos Laoutaris, Network Economics: Some thoughts and several questions (30 min)
- 12:30 - 13:30 lunch
- 13:30 - 14:30 Pricing, continued
- Sergey Gorinsky, CIPT: Using Tuangou to Reduce IP Transit Costs (30 min)
- Respondents: Susan Martens, Bill Norton, Nikos Laoutaris
- Vytautas Valancius, How Many Tiers? Pricing in the Internet Transit Market (30 min)
- Respondents: Sergey Gorinsky, Richard Steenbergen, Tom Vest
- Sergey Gorinsky, CIPT: Using Tuangou to Reduce IP Transit Costs (30 min)
- 14:30 - 15:45 Industry Structure
- John Chuang, Loci of Competition, Market Power, and the Evolving Internet Industry Structure (30 min)
- Respondents: Heikki Hämmäinen, Ren Provo, David Clark
- Heikki Hämmäinen, Congestion Management Strategies and Mobile Access Competition (30 min)
- Respondents: Tom Vest, Keith McCallion, John Chuang
- John Chuang, Loci of Competition, Market Power, and the Evolving Internet Industry Structure (30 min)
- 15:45 - 16:00 break
- 16:00 - 17:00 Industry Structure, continued
- Richard Ma, The Public Option: a Non-regulatory Alternative to Network Neutrality (30 min)
- Respondents: kc claffy, David Clark, Geoff Huston
- Richard Ma, The Public Option: a Non-regulatory Alternative to Network Neutrality (30 min)
- 17:00 - 17:15 Concluding Remarks
- Constantine Dovrolis and kc claffy, Concluding Remarks (15 min)
- 17:15 Adjourn
Local Arrangements / Getting to UCSD
For this workshop, attendees are expected to make their own hotel reservations and transportation arrangements from their hotels to the workshop. For CAIDA's list of recommended local hotels including shuttle availability, see the Recommended Hotels list (PDF).
The 2nd WIE workshop will be held at the building "The Village at Torrey Pines"'s Building 1, on the 15th floor conference room in the University of California San Diego campus. Attendees will have to make their arrangements to get to and from the site.
The Village is nearest the North Point Drive entrance to UCSD off North Torrey Pines Road. This is the most northwest entrance to UCSD. When you enter from North Point Drive, make the first right hand turn onto Scholars Drive North. The Village is the very first building on the corner.
- Driving onto campus
The Interactive UCSD Parking Map is a useful resource for finding parking structures in north campus where The Village at Torrey Pines is located. On this map, The Village Building One is the grey building labeled 531 on the northwest edge of campus.Parking Permits: Drive into the small parking lot in front of The Village. From 7:30 until the start of the workshop, our student, Jessica, will be handing out parking permits for the day to WIE participants. She will give you instructions on how to mark the parking permit, as well as provide a map showing parking locations. Park ONLY in green "B" or yellow "S" spaces anywhere on campus with the parking permit that is provided.
Parking permits for Day 2 will be distributed (by Jessica) at the end of Day 1, just prior to the Reception.
For transportation concerns, general questions and help, contact Darlene Piche at piche at caida.org or (858) 534-5109.
General UCSD Maps and general UCSD Visitor Parking information are useful resources for navigating on campus. (For those GPS-enabled attendees, the GPS coordinates of the Village at Torrey Pines Building One is WGS84: 32°53'18.23'N, 117°14'31.92'W)